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Levinthross

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direct subconscious
« on: June 18, 2009, 10:43:52 PM »
in chaos magic someone usually uses a sigil by allowing there subconsious to absorb the intent of the sigil and carry it out for it is beleived that the subconsious int this sense is the magical part of ones being
does anyone know how one could meditate or attune themselves so they fall into a trance like state completely controlled by the subconsious instead of the usuall look at a sigil pass out or laugh histerically and the deed is done.
the wind that chills the night, the fire's golden light
the oceans call to you, the earthen fated tune,
I am the ivy binding tight i hold the spells all through the night, i am
nightshade's fated swoon of deaths kiss and witches broom

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Re: direct subconscious
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2009, 04:57:05 AM »
the point of meditation is the clearing of the mind to attain a sort of ultra focus which is a + level of consciousness.

The Opposite is true for Khaotists because they attain a state of NO mind. A minus level of consciousness via over loading their brains(such as the classic matherian Death Stance). temporarily shorting themselves out, and flipping a circuit breaker with the laugh-banish. or something else which focuses the the mind away from the sigil.

The sigil is used similarly in both cases physically, but the mental objectives are polar opposites. One is focus on the meaning of the sigil through focus on the sigil's meaning and interpretations, like a reverse gnosis trance. throwing info and interpretations while blocking out everything until the meaning is all that exists. And is integrated into the meaning of all things, sorta like auto suggestion via persuasion. This is difficult due to the focus required.

The other way is focus on the sigil as mere symbol alone, letting the subconscious integrate the meaning into itself during the ritual, one way is basically thinking of everything else including the sigil till you get dizzy and faint. end it with a laugh to banish thoughts.


One is a lazer beam and the other an explosion.

Both ways are quite difficult because i am just making this stuff up.


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Re: direct subconscious
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2009, 05:15:44 AM »
even though you were making it up it made actually quite alot of sense
the wind that chills the night, the fire's golden light
the oceans call to you, the earthen fated tune,
I am the ivy binding tight i hold the spells all through the night, i am
nightshade's fated swoon of deaths kiss and witches broom