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Started by white fang, June 28, 2012, 07:27:20 PM

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white fang

Whats the point to life.Theres no point to living,you do this and that untill you die.
If anyone can give me a good reason to live(don't worry i'm not going to kill myself :laugh:)i can stop feeling like life is meaningless.
We are all brothers under the skin,
       and i'm willing to skin all of humanity to
                             prove it.

Jake

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Quote from: white fang on June 28, 2012, 07:27:20 PM
Whats the point to life. Theres no point to living, you do this and that untill you die.
If anyone can give me a good reason to live i can stop feeling like life is meaningless.

The meaning of life is the meaning that you decide to give it.

Viktor Frankl was an Austrian neuroscientist. He was also Jewish. His wife, father, mother, and brother were all killed in Nazi concentration camps. He himself narrowly escaped death in first Auschwitz and then Dachau. He lost everything on the day he was arrested and put into the camps.

On 27 April 1945 he was liberated by American troops. That year, he wrote the book Trotzdem Ja Zum Leben Sagen: Ein Psychologe Erlebt das Konzentrationslager ("Saying Yes to Life in Spite of Everything: A Psychologist Experiences the Concentration Camp.") In it he explained that even in the most terrible circumstances, people still have the freedom to choose how they see their circumstances and create meaning out of them. We are not here to judge life according to what we expected from it and what it has delivered. Rather, he argued, we must find the courage to ask what life expects of us, day by day. Our task is not merely to survive, but to find the guiding truth specific to us and our situation, which can sometimes only be revealed in the worst suffering.

Frankl concluded that the lack of meaning in life is the paramount existential stress for modern man, a form of anxiety resulting from an awareness in some people of the emptiness of their lives, characterised by the subjective states of boredom, apathy, and emptiness. Those afflicted feel cynical, lack direction and question the point of most of life's activities.

Life itself has no metaphysical, innate "meaning." We are "an accidental species - one out of millions of evolved species - living on a tiny speck of a planet in a gigantic universe whose size is incomprehensible. This is our reality. Our species could disappear tomorrow for all we know. The universe would not care." Does the mayfly ask the meaning of it's (24 hour) life? Or the goldfish? At the most basic level, the biological meaning of life is simply to reproduce. And then you die.

We differ from insects and goldfish, and all other life, because we are conscious, intelligent, thinking beings. We create meaning. We bring meaning into existence with our intelligence and our thinking. But it isn't handed to us on a plate. M. Scott Peck wrote in 1978: "Most do not fully see this truth that life is difficult. Instead they moan more or less incessantly, noisily or subtly, about the enormity of their problems, their burdens, and their difficulties in life as if life were generally easy, as if life should be easy." But the reality is that "life is difficult." To overcome these difficulties we are fortunate to have the ability to think, to imagine, to dream and to make choices in almost everything we do.

If you are bored, apathetic, and unable to see the "meaning" of your life, then set out to consciously give it meaning. Volunteer for a local charity. Take up a new hobby or pastime that cannot be done alone. Write a book. Learn to paint. Learn a new skill that will benefit others.

A final thought. As I write this 3 billion people on the planet are absolutely destitute. This year 10 million children will die of easily preventable causes - things like starvation, thirst and cholera.

Sometimes even being bored and apathetic and gazing into our navels pondering the "meaning of life" isn't such a bad existence after all.


The lighter side:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buqtdpuZxvk

white fang

I never thoght of it like that.I asked for a good reason and you gave it to me.
We are all brothers under the skin,
       and i'm willing to skin all of humanity to
                             prove it.

jordyn

Say what you will about christians, however when i'm at that point i question what lesson i'm missing that's resulting in my persistant misery, not insisting life is pointless and asking others to confirm it for me.

My answer is slowly evolving into, partnership with males is a pointless pursuit, relying on my personal strength and faith works so much better then putting faith into predators that expect to receive more than they can give....

Snake handlers are discovering that, i'm slowly working on it...men just happen to be my personal vipers.
"The world that God made is inherently comprised of relationships, symmetries, analogia, anagogy, poetic wisdom. Thus is the language of symbolism."

white fang

Quote from: jordyn on June 30, 2012, 04:09:48 AM
Say what you will about christians,
I don't say anything about christains mostly because i'm not one.
We are all brothers under the skin,
       and i'm willing to skin all of humanity to
                             prove it.

Nina

QuoteSnake handlers are discovering that, i'm slowly working on it...men just happen to be my personal vipers.


Oh dear, how much i understand this....

jordyn

Quote from: white fang on June 30, 2012, 09:49:33 AM
Quote from: jordyn on June 30, 2012, 04:09:48 AM
Say what you will about christians,
I don't say anything about christains mostly because i'm not one.

that's good, a lot of people do and more often than not it's not friendly. People seem to fail to separate between the person and a title. (Sometimes the topics i discuss stream together)

but to get back onto this topic...the point of life would depend on the person searching it out, why limit yourself to one?

Some people think the point of life is to die with the most toys, others to help others, some to seek adventure, some think the point of life is misery and pain, i could go on...  *shrugs

What do you want to do with your life, where do you want it to go, the basic "who, what, when, where and how" are always good starting points when searching something out, what do you think the point of life is, what has meaning for you?





"The world that God made is inherently comprised of relationships, symmetries, analogia, anagogy, poetic wisdom. Thus is the language of symbolism."

white fang

I never thought about were I want my life to go,now that you typed it :-D I have a lot to think about
We are all brothers under the skin,
       and i'm willing to skin all of humanity to
                             prove it.

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