raising magik

[Levinthross]

I've already read the theoretical books on chaos magik liber kkk and psychonaut i've read articles on the gnosis theory and practice, but how would one go about summoning raw, primal chaotic forces?

[Mr. Kreepy]

Through lots of practice, and doing research on your own. You'll never find the answers you seek by asking another person, simply because chaos magick is such a personal thing. Also, I doubt there are any true Chaotes here, so this is definitely not the place to ask.
The fact of the matter is that nobody can tell you how to do it. You need to learn yourself, and you need to practice.
I suggest talking to Oldbill on the matter, and reading through these links for just a rough idea of how to go about even thinking of using chaos magick...
http://www.spiralnature.com/magick/chaos
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/
http://www.boudicca.de/max1-e.htm

[Levinthross]

why thank you kreepy.

[oldbill4823]

I thought I sensed my name being used in some chaotic plot.

I was right!

If you want raw chaotic force I should pass on the names and addresses of several ex girlfriends. They certainly had that effect on me.

[Levinthross]

oh you want raw force dont make me call my mother
but in all reality ive been lagging in my ritual magic or even basic magic not even meditations lately and its severely takin a toll on my life health and happiness so i think i should actuall follow through on some of my older more aspiring plans to get me back on track.

[oldbill4823]

Find what inspires you for sure but whatever system we adhere to there are some common essential ingredients.
Dedication, commitment, practice, and just hours in the saddle.
This is the core and I dont know of any way to hurdle it.

Chaos magic from what I know of it is powerful stuff but its only as powerful as what you put into it.
Changing magical paradigms everyweek is pretty useless when your experience of last weeks system was tepid at best.

Now if you were a fullyfledged bishop who then undertook an orgiastic ritual with 13 whores of bablyon on Silbury hill at midsummer, well then the magical change of context would be pretty awesome! (Id also want to to help you prepare the ritual.)
It be enough to make it into national newspapers with spectacular photos.
Get the idea?

By the way I can take a good photo if you need it.

[Levinthross]

I would like to know what you guys theorize to be the best methods of raising large amounts of magik energy in ritual or with out elaboration be sure to tell what types of objects used describe what you did in detail and what crystals herbs or metals you used please and thank you!!!!!!

[Mr. Kreepy]

Levin, it's entirely personal.
If something doesn't help you focus your psychic energy it's totally worthless to you. Your favorite pair of shoes would be more helpful than any herb, crystal, or metal if it stimulates you more than those things do.
Magick, contrary to popular belief, cannot be taught. Sure, you can be guided by other people, but the methods that work are the personal ones.

[Levinthross]

i thoroughly and utterly agree with you kreeps but i just wanted to know how others raise energy so that a may learn other ways to help me focus like the certian format of a rital or some slightly more entrancing way of chanting

[oldbill4823]

Obviously magical attention is not the same as our every day attention.
It is attracted by slightly different things.
When you talk about raising magical energy I assume that you are talking about finding better ways to access your magical attention.

A good way to find specific things that your magical attention has hooked onto are by examining the contents of your dreams. There you will find the complete range of what caught its attention. You might be surprised by what is in there and what isn't.

Its a bit like a storing house for the elements of your life it has found interesting.
The art then lies in being aware enough to examine its interests and using those elements in some of your magic work.
You should be able to incorporate some of your findings into your practice. With a bit of ingenuity your magic working/practice should then take on the sensation of dreaming awake. A halfway house between daily reality and everything else out there. Itll make the focussing of your magical attention tons easier since you will be using ingredients that you know it already loves.

Beyond that repetition, movement, and sound seem to hook it very effectively. These seem to be staple ingredients for catching its eye.

Another thing to bear in mind is the influence of geographic location. Some places are better than others.

Experiment!

Just some thoughts to chew on.

[Regina Terra]

So all those spells and chanting are just ways to keep that part of your mind from getting bored and wandering off, so to speak?

[oldbill4823]

Pretty much.

Its not even to keep that part wandering off so much. Chances are its doing its own thing at any given time, so its more like getting it to look at what you are up to.