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Aliens, ETs and UFOs => Theories => Topic started by: elfhood on December 24, 2006, 11:08:40 AM

Title: my theory
Post by: elfhood on December 24, 2006, 11:08:40 AM
for some reason im the only one in my family that believes in aliens. i have been fascinated by them ever since i was a kid.
here are my reasons i think aliens truly exists.
#1. there are other places than earth.
#2. there have been so many people claiming about their sighting that one of them is bound to be real.
#3. there are paintings of the virgin mary that i have seen with a ufo in the back ground.
#4. roswell
#5. area 51 of course
#6. the fact that the government lies to us, they claimed that there was no area 51 but there was sattalite pictures of the base.
#7. photos even if they are blurry or fake they look real.
#8. people who worked for the government have claimed what they saw.
#9. loads of cover ups for sightings.

personally i think there are not as many believers as there use to be, but im one.

i think they have been here observing us and getting ready to make their move.

some are nice some are hostile

either way the truth is out there.

p.s. i love this website.

peace.
 
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: Robigus on December 25, 2006, 10:28:12 PM
Honestly, there are many more substantion reasons to believe that aliens exist that the ones that you offer.  I mean, once we drop an egocentric view, there's no reason to believe they don't exist.  Belief that we've made contact, on the other hand....
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: Vendoh on December 26, 2006, 10:55:51 PM
 The whole area 51 thing... I live about 50 miles from it in las vegas...... its about 40 min away... of course it exists.
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: elfhood on January 05, 2007, 06:02:16 PM
I know im just trying to say the government denies any knowledge i was just trying to prove a point thats all. i already know it exists. for something they claim thats its not in use they sure have it heavily guarded.
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: Robigus on January 05, 2007, 06:31:57 PM
They could be using it for a distraction and telling the truth, you never know.
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: elfhood on January 06, 2007, 10:11:39 AM
you make a good point.
i don't know what but something about them makes me want to learn abot them im just fascinated about them. when i think of myths and other stuff i think of aliens.
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: Robigus on January 06, 2007, 10:43:35 AM
Everyone has their specialty.  If this is what intrests you, pursue it.  If you think Aliens exist, why not spend some time researching it and compiling some evidence on it?  One of the best ways to do that is to start with the assumtion that they don't exist, put down as much proof as you can towards that, and then bring in every counterargument you can to compete with that.  That way, you have the best grounds for knowledge and you can easily inform others as well.  No matter what, you'd be learning something.

Sorry for the rambling.  I guess what I'm trying to say is, go for it.  Others may tell you that such an idea is preposterous and absurd, you may get discouraged, but keep at it. 
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: elfhood on January 21, 2007, 07:39:14 AM
ill do that it will keep me from being bored. nice point. :-D
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: Vendoh on February 01, 2007, 10:09:51 PM
 The roswell thing though... Umm i just recently watched a program on national geographic. They did a show on roswell. The counter theory compared to the evidense I have to say seemed hard to deny. They said they had special modified weather balloons that could pic up nuclear testing half way around the world. Now the only thing they found in the crash was aluminum foil, rubber tubing, and wooden sticks with marking on them. The son of the rancher confirmed this. The son however believed that the markings were alien in origin. Now when the balloon device was to be made the government hired a toy company to make them.  They used the matierials they had. One of wich was scotch tape that had a floral pattern on it. When the device crashed the sun would have bleached the tape, making the ink bleed onto the wood, hence the markings.
 Now at first you would think, well then why didn't the government just come out and say this. It was because that Roswell happend during the cold war between the us and russia. So really the alien theory worked out great for the cover up. They told the people weather balloons to keep credibility. Also remember at the time this was a classified tool to see if russia was testing nuclear weapons, so naturally they did not want russia to find out they had such a device.
 I personally have to believe in this theory because it makes perfect sence. anyways hope this helps a little.
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: elfhood on February 02, 2007, 04:13:33 PM
at least it does prove 1 of my theories that the government uses cover ups i think it was brilliant cover up toosince we were in the era of people that truly believed aliens exist. i still do believe.
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: Vendoh on February 03, 2007, 10:04:49 PM
 I believe in aliens too. Personally I would find it arrogant to believe a universe as vast and infante as it is would only hold one form of intelligent life. The movie contact put it best.... "It would be an awful waste of space"
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: ModernDayVampire on April 09, 2007, 12:17:49 PM
true and because we are so small and insignificant its impossible that we are the only life i dont believe however that we will be able to come in contact with any others because in order to do so we would need to move either lightyears in seconds or have generation spanning trips (where people have kids on the trip and those kids have kids and so on) and somehow get the required supplies for such a trip      impossible unless they somehow find a way to get to us before were all extinct but the probability of us being found is rediculusly low
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: Nina on April 09, 2007, 12:59:25 PM
But they do contact.
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: ModernDayVampire on April 09, 2007, 04:24:10 PM
unfortunatly alot of these UFO sightings are false and theres never any good proof yet there are scientific explanations as to why some things happen such as:

falling chunks of rocks fall through the atmosphere and cause burning flashes that occationally disturb plasma in the atmosphere giving off the rainbow multicolor effect

also when certain electronic waves pass through certain parts of your brain it can distort some memories and even make some people colorless and/or featureless wich can account for sevral abduction stories

Also most "Abductees" are normally Hillbilly Rednecks    i want an intelligent person to get abducted lol
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: Nina on April 10, 2007, 07:07:12 AM
true, but you have many indicators for something, it ussually is that. It is a goose if it flaps like a goose.
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: Janus on April 10, 2007, 10:51:04 AM
so since a pidgeon flaps, it is also a goose?  i think what you meant to say is that usually when an experiment can be repeated and altered predictably, you have the grounds for a probable hypothesis  however even gravity is still a theory

no it behooves us to look at the most plausable explanation before we look at preposterous things such as ufos   people believed in ufos and stuff like that because they didnt no how things worked   now we have more information on how things work and there is more evidence for scientific explanations than blaming ufos

for a distinct refutation there are many many indications that our scientific explanations are correct  therefore it is more probable that they are correct
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: Moloch on April 10, 2007, 12:35:10 PM
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Title: Re: my theory
Post by: ModernDayVampire on April 10, 2007, 02:27:23 PM
Not everyone who sees these things or is abducted is an "uneducated hillbilly". In fact, governors, a former president, and many other officials who hold the public trust have reported seeing them, some while in office. Given these facts, can you honestly insinuate that UFOs are nothing more than a halucination brought on by a combination of bad moonshine and inbred genetics?

I'm sorry if i offended you in any way but i did say was

Also most "Abductees" are normally Hillbilly Rednecks    i want an intelligent person to get abducted lol

key word being MOST not ALL and sightings and abductions are COMPLETELY different some sightings are believeable and possible however most i dont think are
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: leapetra on April 10, 2007, 03:00:13 PM
I do think there are aliens, but contact is another matter.  So here are the points with my ideas

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here are my reasons i think aliens truly exists.
#1. there are other places than earth.
Even with the Billions of worlds out there, they percentage of those that may have life is small. And if they developed some way to get here ups the odds.  But it seems every year the scientists up the odds.  When more planets are discovered that could have life.  So there has to be something out there.

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#2. there have been so many people claiming about their sighting that one of them is bound to be real.
One was my dad.  He was never known to tell tall tales, so I am bound to believe him.  But there is a part of me that wants to make sure that it was Venus or whatever.  Of course after you eliminate the probable, you must look at the other ideas.  In the case of my father's sighting.  Nothing else could explain it.

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#3. there are paintings of the virgin mary that i have seen with a ufo in the back ground.
I know which one you are talking about.  There are a few medieval paintings with those strange ships.  Plus you have the Hindu texts with mentions of air ships as well.

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#4. roswell
I'm torn there.  Something did happen, in which the government felt they have to cover it up and threaten people.  But some of the more outlandish claims I have trouble accepting.

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#5. area 51 of course
It's not the only one.  It's just the most famous.  Makes me wonder now if it is used to distract people from the other bases.

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#6. the fact that the government lies to us, they claimed that there was no area 51 but there was sattalite pictures of the base.
see above

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#7. photos even if they are blurry or fake they look real.
There are a few that even after make sure they are not, camera defect, cloud formations, other items, are pictures of some sort of craft.  Whether its terrestrial or extra terrestrial, we have to wait to see.  I remember when the Stealth bomber was finally made public.  Sheesh it looked just like the UFO's people were seeing.

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#8. people who worked for the government have claimed what they saw.
I tend to believe the pilots more than the ex government workers.

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#9. loads of cover ups for sightings.
So many of the sightings could be testing of experimental aircrafts.  So that would explain the cover ups.
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: Moloch on April 10, 2007, 03:20:26 PM
I take issue only with the crack about it being uneduacated hillbillies. Most of the folks interviewed that I've see are at the very least educated. Some even hold advanced degrees in things I can't even begin to understand. As for abductions, same thing. Many of these folks are at least average, some quite a bit more.

Lea...wonderful breakdown. Great job, and thank you for remaining unbiased.
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: Nina on April 12, 2007, 04:31:02 AM
I wish I had camera every time I saw one (sometimes even more of them at the same time). I had "meetings" like that from as long as I can remember, and no one can call me a hillbilly something, just cause they never saw them themselves. If you took a look at the skyes more often, maybe you would see it.  When I was a child I saw a multiple number of UFOs over my grans house, and they were communicating with me without the words, I felt happy, and danced on the grass, and they did some sort of dance themselves.And Venus doesnt move in L direction, then stop, then go UP with such speed I had never seen. Also, what I once saw with my brother was far too big to be called a plane or something US Army made.... sorry, maybe they are good but not THAT good. Also, after I had orb like creatures visit me in my own sleeping room, I woke up next morning with new marks on my body, with strange stuff over my belly boton, and after that I can tell by the smell in the air that they are near. For all those who dont believe, they dont have to, but anyways, Im gonna load up the pics of my marks that are still visible.

Hillbilly  *<:)  Nina
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: Janus on April 12, 2007, 06:53:52 AM
so maybe saying hillbillies was going to far   maybe uneducated (or "uneduacatedd" as the case may be) could suffice    hillbilly is a fairly strong word
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: Moloch on April 12, 2007, 07:08:29 AM
Sue me, Janus. I have very large fingers and a small keyboard, lol.
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: Janus on April 12, 2007, 10:39:51 AM
must be to stretch all the way from u to a  :-D  sorry, i had to pick up on the irony there     but seriously when it comes to ufo sightings or abductations everyone involved is uneducated  not generally but in the specifics of the situation     if they were educated ufos wouldnt be called ufos
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: Loki on April 12, 2007, 12:41:08 PM
It would be pretentious to believe that the human species is unique thing in the universe. Given the huge number of stars and planets possibly having the same condition as Earth it is then quite likely that there are other primates similar to us. Among the billions of planets that host those intelligent bipedal species, it is also likely that some have developed advanced technology to travel through space and time. To achieve such technological breakthrough, they are also probably "wise" (and not hostile as represented in movies) and either carry experiments or try to alter the evil curse of the human race.
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: Janus on April 12, 2007, 01:12:08 PM
it is also preposterous to believe that with as many species as there are on earth that none of them have reached the evolutionary stage that we have     however that hasnt happened either    just because something isnt probable doesnt mean its false   
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: Nina on April 14, 2007, 12:30:02 AM
well, in my country people who succeed to be one of two students on a year ussually are called educated.... but, I live in a town that is 1000 years old... what do I know?
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: elfhood on April 27, 2007, 06:26:57 PM
ya don't we all wish we have a camera when something unusual happens. what I also think that in some universe there could be a possibility of an alternate reality. an exact opposite of us. possibly different personalities. i do agree that bases like area 51 would be used as a decoy so they can do what they want without us knowing it. probably hillbilly was used because in most movies with aliens they are shown more often although i don't know why. watch men in black 1.  i don't need nina to show pictures to prove aliens exist because i already believe they do. you can say im more open to the unknown.

sorry i haven't been on in so long i love this site and would never abandon it and im surprised that this topic isn't dead freaking awesome. it feels good to be back in this forum again.
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: Nina on April 27, 2007, 11:47:47 PM
Hey Elf! Nice to have you back! Good you dont need pics, cause i dont have any  :-D

Yes, I also believe that there is a kind of paralel reality of us somewhere in this universe. hey, people will be surprised when they excepct that everything IS possible. But really everything.
Title: Re: my theory
Post by: elfhood on April 28, 2007, 08:53:04 PM
glad to know someone believes the same things i do. one of the reasons this is one of my favorite sites.