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dinosaurs and the bible.
« on: September 09, 2007, 12:46:54 PM »
I did this as a reaport for school. please give it a rating */10.


CREATION VS. EVOLUTION

     In this essay, I am going to write the differences and similarities between the creation theory and the evolution theory. Long time ago, God, poof, created the earth. He created the waters, he created all the sea creatures and he created everything. All he did was just think about it and it was there. Where is the proof that happened? Every body says the bible is the word of God. How do we know if the bible was written by Godís disciples? I could have been written by a drunk guy, or it could have been written be a fiction writer. It also could have been writing as a prank that got out of hand. It doesnít have any scientific proof backing it up.

     Charles Darwin founded the theory of evolution while on a trip to the Galapagos Islands. He studied the plants and animals and came up with that theory. Iím not going to explain to you what evolution is, because you could go on and on and on for days, but listen to this. Nothing dug up out of the ground, or discovered anywhere else, has supported the theory of evolution. People will ask, ďBut what about all those books on evolution?Ē To answer that, look at where they got there information. They say that they got it from another book. That book says they got it from another book. That book says that they got it from the first book. That is called a circle of information. As I said before, both the creation and evolution theory have no scientific backup.

     Both the evolution and creation theories have similarities. One of them is that both of the theories states that dinosaur have existed. In the bible, scientists have found that there are two dinosaurs. One, a brachiosaurus, is found in Job 40:15-24. Its characteristics are it eats grass like an ox, it moves its tail like a cedar, its bones are like beams of bronze, its ribs are like bars of iron, he is the first of the ways of God, and he lies under the lotus tree in a marsh. The phrase ďhe is the first of the ways of GodĒ means the biggest in Hebrew. The Leviathan, a kronosaurus, found in Job chapter 41, Psalm 104:25, 26 and Isaiah 27:1 is another dinosaur. Its characteristics are no one is so fierce that he would dare stir him up, who can open the doors of his face, with his terrible teeth all around, his rows of scales are his pride, shut up tightly as with a seal; one is so near another that no air can come between them; they are joined one to another, they stick together and cannot be parted, his sneezing flash forth light, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning. Out of his mouth go burning lights; sparks of fire shoot out. Smoke goes out of his nostrils, as from a boiling pot and burning rushes. His breath kindles coals, and a flame goes out of his mouth, though the sword reaches him, it cannot avail; nor does spear, dart, or javelin. He regards iron as straw, and bronze as rotten wood. The arrow cannot make him flee, sling stones become like stubble to him. Darts are regarded as straw; he laughs at the threat of javelins, on earth there is nothing like him, which is made without fear. Another thing that evolution and the creation theory have in common is that both of them agree that the great flood happened. When the flood happened, all of the land animals died (except for the animals in Noahís ark). Therefore; this would have left a big layer of dead things that would later become coal and oil and leave fossils.     

     One of the biggest differences between creation and evolution is that evolution is the theory that man developed from animals. Creation states that God made us. Another one is that human skulls and bones have been discovered in Pliocene layers. The human remains in layers that are 7-12 million years old. That causes serious doubt on the theory of evolution. We may never know the truth, but one thing we know is that those to theories will battle on until the end of time.

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Re: dinosaurs and the bible.
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2007, 02:18:08 PM »
I give it about a 7/10. Good job, and presented quite fairly.

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Re: dinosaurs and the bible.
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2007, 03:53:45 PM »
thanks! I love doing essays!

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Re: dinosaurs and the bible.
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2007, 04:08:09 PM »
I give it an 8.5.

Like your subject topic you have no proof. and the interpretation and the connection to the dinos could be argued.

Still it was fairly interesting in its own right and was fun to read. (which is the main point for reading anything. accd to me)

Nice one
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2007, 04:46:45 PM »
I'd like to point out the fact that the peoples of ancient Mesopotamia were not in an archeological mind frame. That being the case, how else would they know what those creatures looked like, and what other creature now alive or alive then would resemble those descriptions?

Also, bear in mind that Carbon Dating fossils has been proven to be flawed. Stories abound of folks bringing in family pets that only died a few years previous, and sat in the front yard, and were dated as being tens of thousands of years old. So, the chronology of the dinosaurs has always (to me) been in question.

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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2007, 05:57:07 PM »
I don't mean to sound ignorant, but....... how is this related to the mesapotamians?
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Re: dinosaurs and the bible.
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2007, 10:31:46 AM »
In Job 40 15-24 they are refurring to an elephant or a hippopotamus... sorry to burst the bubble. The last lines in that specific passage says "When the river rages, he is not alarmed; he is secure, though the Jordan should surge against his mouth." Job 40:23 (sounds like hippo)  "Can anyone capture him by th24e eyes or trap him and pierce his nose?" Job 40:24 (could be either more likely hippo because the phrase 'can anyone capture him by the eyes' meaning 'can anyone capture him by a water hole; could also be an elephant because it might want some water). In thouse days (still today some believe) that if you could stare into a wild beasts eyes and tame it that you were a powerful person. They did this a lot expecially in India (which there could also be a reference to Alexander the greats last battle with the elephants of india). It is not surprising that it would be either of these creature because the elephant was a powerful land animal or the hippo (little more dangerous) was a powerful water animal. And to be able to tame it and ride it was astonishing thouse days because they didn't have such fierce creature (I don't know if anyone was succussful riding a hippo though cause they get angery and will kill you). It was most likely an elephant though because of how the hills bring him their produce; he can reach up high; yet under the lotus plant he lies and the poplars by the stream surround him; meaning he lives in a marshy area with a lot of rivers (euphrates tigris rivers, aka mesopotamia area).

The next passage job 41 about the Leviathian some think it might have been a crocodile but i do believe that it was an ancient giant ocenanic reptilian that went from land to the sea/ocean to live. I do believe that the leviathain was a older creature that was huge and evil. I don't believe it was a crocadile on some parts cause blowing fire from its breath and its chest as hard as a rock (a crocodiles chest is actully very soft if you ever get to touch one you'll know what i mean compared to the rest of him/her).

There are a lot of creationist webpages that you could go look at as well as evolutionist ones (best ones are geological and paleontology pages) that could have supported your paper. You should also look up about how the creationists are pushing Schweitzer's T-rex findings to their side. Very interesting about her findings and experiments (reminds me of jurassic park a little bit, well the beginning of it).

I am sorry to disagree but I am majoring in religious studies or geology (haven't decided fully yet, might combine them give creationists one hell of a time). I just believe that God's timing and our timing are different. I believe that we are all his lab rats (even though I shouldn't say that). I mean to say that God has all of eternity, so what makes our day compatable to his? Anyways... Your topic was good and the first paragraph was funny just cut the first sentence (no one wants to read a dull intro sentence to a topic like that). The rest is a start just needs more information, unless you had a word limit and couldn't fit everything you wanted into it. One more thing what type of report is this? Is it a research essay, individual standpoint essay, ect... That would help me to know how to critique it. I don't mean to critique harshly I would just like the same thing for my essays so that I could get a better grade. The best grade is an A+.
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