[matthew321]

Well I personally think that this is not going to happen. I doubt May 21st of 2011 (or any year) is judgement day. I am unsure how some bible believers can follow this, when there is a verse that states, no one knows when it will happen. But maybe that was a mistranslation and it really reads: "no one knows, except for this guy". In which case we better get on our knees and repent.

In all seriousness, so what if it is true? What would you do instead of your normal activities?

I do not see the word rapture in the bible and the bible can be interpreted many ways. The son of god was a righteous man and to get off the earth he had to suffer for three days on the cross. Then after that, he went to hell. So thinking we are above this sort of treatment may be a little narcissistic.

However, if we do go to hell, we should search for employment opportunities. 

One that accepted the mercy of Jesus isnt going to hell

Oh, he "appreciates" EVERY soul he can get

My belief is this: that when the End comes, the true End, we will not be expecting it.

[blacksite117]

my earlier comment was made in joke now to be serious for a moment

source: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/preachers-prophesying-end-world-york-000338169.html

"According to Genesis, when the flood occurred in the year 4990, God told Noah that in seven days he would destroy the earth," Manny explained. "And he destroyed it in seven days.

"But Peter said: 'I know that one day for me is like a thousand years.' So 4990 plus 7001 years (the equivalent of seven days) equals 2011," he explained.

"But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone"
Mark 13:32
Matthew 24:36

so how did they come to the 21st of may?

also if 1000 years is a day to god then why is there an extra 1 there?

also 4990 + 7001 = 11,991 that is not 2011
even if you change that to what they believe to be 1000:1 4990 is closer to 5 then it comes out to 12

on top of this they predict only 200,000,000 people will be 'saved'

According to the Bible, only 200 million people will be saved" this time, Manny said.

they also state that an earthquake will mark the beginning of judgement day, things is earthquakes don't just simply happen there are signs such as:

Thermal precursor: A few months before the occurrence of an earthquake the average temperature of the area keeps increasing.

Water precursor: There is a sudden rise or fall in water level in the wells.

There is a sudden and rapid increase or decrease of water flow in the river

Seismo-electromagnetic precursor: This is a very reliable precursor. It occurs and is exhibited about 10 to 20 hours before the quake.

Animal precursor: It is seen that 10 to 20 hours before the occurrence of an earthquake, the entire animal kingdom becomes highly disturbed and restless.

Human precursor: Doctors and nurses observe that some sensitive patients in hospitals become highly disturbed.

source:http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_signs_that_an_earthquake_might_happen_quite_soon

on top of this earthquakes are extremely rare in locations that are not near the tectonic plate fault line.

all in all, my opinion is that these people are WRONG, and undoubtedly when they see Sunday morning they will make up another date for this event to happen.
    

[Anaya]

Should I save everyone seats in the processing and torture room within hell? I heard it's quite a show... 

[onepiece]

Should I save everyone seats in the processing and torture room within hell? I heard it's quite a show... 

id like one in the front row  .......please




yeah but anyway the end is gonna come when god gets bored with us..........or he accidentally hits the apocalypse button .

[blacksite117]

my bad i missed the Before Christ part

[matthew321]

I'm not sure where the number 200 million comes from. The book of revelation in the bible, talks about two groups of 144,000. It also does not say these groups will be protected or that there will be a rapture.

If someone can provide me with counter verses of scripture that validate this scenario, please provide them. I would love to have some verses that support this, but as of now I am unaware of any.

I doubt believing the rapture will happen on may 21st will get you raptured anyway. The bible is firm on believing the son of god died for your sins. So my point is that even if you don't know the flight number, you know the destination. (my god that was awful... I am so sorry for that metaphor..)

I am checking this group out and I will see if I find any solid support.

[TheCopperDragon]

Well, I haven't been Christian in a while, so I'm certainly not one of the "saved."

These days, I define Christianity as the religion that is too busy worshipping a great teacher to actually put into act his teachings. Christians, I've come to slowly realize, demean themselves to the point of slavery and believe that in comparison to this great teacher, they are nothing and worth nothing. They believe that only this teacher can save the world and that they are incapable of helping to salvage the world themselves. This is why you see so many Christians anxious for the end of the world on May 21st. They believe that this "final judgement" is the only way.

St. Francsis of Assisi, and Emiliy D. (really great poet) were Christians who were the opposite of this. They understood that they were as capable as this teacher and tried to make a difference in the world. There are many Christians, as those two would, who find this May 21st thing completely rediculous and mind-boogling. The church holds high contempt for these Christians in general because they are prone to questioning everything, whereas the church doesn't want you to question anything of their 2000 year old dogma.

If the western cities were under a theocracy of Chirstianity, we would likely be in the same situation as many places in the east are. Granted, we wouldn't be killing everyone that doesn't believe in the churches dogma (unless you are George W. Bush) but we would be a much more primitive society than we already are, too afraid to advance in technology, for fear of "angering the lord."

But I guess I'm going off topic now...

[ViciouslyMe]

Isn't it kind of wrong to assume that, by not being christian, you are automatically not "saved"? Still, if/when the end comes, it will have been well deserved.

[TheCopperDragon]

Isn't it kind of wrong to assume that, by not being christian, you are automatically not "saved"? Still, if/when the end comes, it will have been well deserved.

I'm not one of the "saved" in the eyes of those Christians out there awaiting the rapture. I don't very much subscribe to Heaven/Hell anymore anyway. The magazine is way too expensive on it's own and the S&H just kills it.

This is just my perspective, but I think Heaven is a carrot on a stick that prods people into Christianity, while Hell is the psychological means of scaring people into never abandoning Christianity.

No one could believe a forgiving God would send one indefinitely to one of the most unpleasant places conceived. And yet... 1/3 of the population does.

Whether the end is deserved depends on how much humanity has evolved when the end does come for them. In either case, the end will be a tradgedy.

Isn't it kind of wrong to assume that, by not being christian, you are automatically not "saved"? Still, if/when the end comes, it will have been well deserved.

I'm not one of the "saved" in the eyes of those Christians out there awaiting the rapture. I don't very much subscribe to Heaven/Hell anymore anyway. The magazine is way too expensive on it's own and the S&H just kills it.

This is just my perspective, but I think Heaven is a carrot on a stick that prods people into Christianity, while Hell is the psychological means of scaring people into never abandoning Christianity.

No one could believe a forgiving God would send one indefinitely to one of the most unpleasant places conceived. And yet... 1/3 of the population does.

Whether the end is deserved depends on how much humanity has evolved when the end does come for them. In either case, the end will be a tradgedy.

A few problems here. First, you're making assumptions about all Christians awaiting the rapture. (I am not one of them, nor am I Christian for that matter, but still). Second, you are also implying that "Heaven" and "Hell" are places allotted to Christianity alone.

Just sayin'.

That said, I'm not sure we as humans have the capability to understand what The End will be, or how it will come into play, or when.

[TheCopperDragon]

A few problems here. First, you're making assumptions about all Christians awaiting the rapture. (I am not one of them, nor am I Christian for that matter, but still). Second, you are also implying that "Heaven" and "Hell" are places allotted to Christianity alone.

Just sayin'.

That said, I'm not sure we as humans have the capability to understand what The End will be, or how it will come into play, or when.

The first point, granted; those assumptions probably aren't true for all of those Christians but it's still rediculous. As for the second point, it was an accident if I made that implication. A lot of religions have Heaven or Hell, whether it's called Heaven/Hell or Cheese Land/Homework Room.


As for the end? It will be an alien hot war, unless we get really lucky.

 Anyway, there is no point in complaining or anything. We only have one day to live regardless, so let's all make it count.

Live every day as if it were your last!

[onepiece]

yeah..........i imagine how this topic will sound on Sunday..........Epic